(UPDATE: June 26 at 8:52 pm): Anthony Olienick, sitting alone in an empty police interrogation room, breaks down in tears when he learns the COVID-19 protest blockade at Coutts, Alta., has disbanded in part because of his arrest.
“I’m sorry, God,” Olienick says to the four walls, in a video played for jurors Wednesday at his murder-conspiracy trial.
In the 2022 video, Olienick tells police he and others formed the blockade at the busy Canada-U. S. border crossing to take a stand against a takeover of Canadian freedoms by tyrants, including United Nations troops and Chinese communists.
“We're just trying to be protectors. That's all,” says Olienick.
“We've seen it all over the world … governments do bad things."
Olienick and fellow protester Chris Carbert are on trial in Lethbridge, Alta., charged with conspiring to kill Mounties at the blockade.
The two men were arrested after RCMP found a cache of guns, body armour and ammunition in trailers in Coutts.
In the video, Olienick tells police there was no plan to attack, and the guns were only for defence.
“We're just protecting the flock. That's all I wanted,” he says.
“We're the sheepdogs in case of something going bad.”
Olienick rejects the allegation he would threaten officers, but qualifies it by saying, "unless you guys are shooting at us first."
"But it wouldn't be you guys," he adds. "It would be UN guys or Chinese.”
Earlier in the interview, Olienick expresses concern about Canada being taken over by a communist regime.
The blockade tied up traffic at the Coutts border crossing for two weeks, part of a nationwide backlash against pandemic restrictions and vaccine mandates seen as unnecessary and punitive.
The blockade ended when convoy leader Marco Van Huigenbos announced that because of the arrests and gun seizures the blockade would wrap up immediately and peacefully.
When police convey this to Olienick in the video, he appears devastated.
"I am so heartbroken. That was never our intention,” he says. “That's not the outcome that we wanted."
“I want to defend myself against some tyranny, and that's it.
"I'm not going to be the first guy who's going to do it. I'm going to be the guy that's going to end it if it happens.”
Undercover officers have testified Olienick told them police were pawns of the federal government and that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was the devil. Police should be hanged, he said, and if officers raided the blockade he would “slit their throats.”
He also characterized to the undercover agents that the blockade represented the fight and mission of his life.
In the video, Olienick reacts when he's told some of the evidence against him came from undercover officers.
"Oh my goodness," he says.
The officer in the interrogation room pushes Olienick about the alleged threats against police.
"Was there any conversation where you might have been fired up or anything like that or this might have been misconstrued?" the officer asks.
"If it was talking at the time about politicians or something like that and some generic thing," Olienick replies.
"Anything specific though?" the officer says. "Anything like, 'I'm going to kill cops?'"
"Not that I would outright say,” Olienick says.
Court of King's Bench David Labrenz reminded the jurors they shouldn't draw conclusions from the Olienick's views in the interview.
"Nobody is charged or found guilty of a criminal offence for being of a character that you don't agree with or having a disposition you don't agree with," the judge said.
Olienick and Carbert are also charged with mischief and possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose. Olienick faces a further charge of being in possession of a pipe bomb.
The defence has suggested one undercover officer broke legal and ethical rules by flirting with Olienick to gain information, as text messages between her and Olienick featured heart emojis.
The officer rejected the flirting allegation. The hearts, said the officer, indicated she liked the comments, not the person.
(UPDATE: June 26 at 11:02 am): A man accused of conspiring to kill Mounties at the border blockade at Coutts, Alta., says he was fighting a larger battle against tyranny and potential foes, like Chinese communists and the United Nations.
The comments from Anthony Olienick were heard in court in a videotaped police interrogation from 2022.
Asked by police if he made direct threats to harm officers, Olienick replies no but adds, “Unless you guys are shooting at us first. But it wouldn't be you guys. It would be UN guys or Chinese.”
Earlier in the police interview, Olienick expresses concern about Canada being taken over by a communist regime.
“That's all that I want to do. I want to defend myself against some tyranny and that's it," he tells the officer.
"I'm not going to be the first guy who's going to do it. I'm going to be the guy that's going to end it if it happens.”
Olienick and Chris Carbert are on trial charged with conspiring to murder police at the blockade, which paralyzed traffic at the Canada-U.S. border in early 2022 to protest COVID-19 restrictions.
Olienick and Chris Carbert were arrested after Mounties found a cache of guns, body armour and ammunition in trailers parked in Coutts near the blockade.
Female undercover officers have testified Olienick told them police were the pawns of the federal government and should be hanged, and that if officers raided the blockade he would “slit their throats.”
He also characterized to the undercover agents that the blockade represented the fight and mission of his life.
The officer in the interrogation pushed Olienick about those comments.
"Was there any conversation where you might have been fired up or anything like that or this might have been misconstrued?" Cpl. Andrew Olfert asks in the video.
"If it was talking at the time about politicians or something like that and some generic thing," Olienick replies.
"Anything specific though?" the office asks.
"Anything like, 'I'm going to kill cops?'" the officer asks.
"Not that I would outright say,” Olienick says.
Olienick and Carbert are also charged with mischief and possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose. Olienick faces a further charge of being in possession of a pipe bomb.
Olienick’s lawyer has argued his client's comments to the undercover officers were misconstrued and when Olienick talked about “slitting throats” it could have meant officers would be figuratively cutting their own throats if they tried to dismantle the blockade.
The defence has also suggested one undercover officer broke legal and ethical rules by flirting with Olienick to gain information, as text messages between her and Olienick featured heart emojis.
The officer rejected the flirting allegation. The hearts, said the officer, indicated she liked the comments, not the person.
This report by The Canadian Press was first published June 26, 2024.
(Original story: June 26 at 5:05 am): The trial of two men charged with conspiracy to commit murder at the border blockade at Coutts, Alta., is expected to hear more from one of the accused in a video statement he gave to police.
About three hours of the video with Anthony Olienick was played earlier this week for the jury.
Olienick tells police in the video that he's surprised by the charge and never threatened anyone to their face.
He describes the blockade as a peaceful protest and says the federal government is trying to make it appear evil.
Olienick and Chris Carbert were arrested in 2022 after Mounties found a cache of guns, body armour and ammunition in trailers parked in Coutts near the blockade.
The blockade protesting COVID-19 measures and vaccines paralyzed traffic for two weeks at the busy Canada-U.S. border crossing.
Olienick says in the video that a seized shotgun and a .22-calibre rifle are his, but he has nothing to do with two assault-style rifles found.
Undercover officers previously testified that Olienick considered the blockade a war and expressed a hatred of police and a desire to kill officers.
Olienick and Carbert are also charged with mischief and possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose. Olienick faces a further charge of being in possession of a pipe bomb.
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